Whole Truth Concerning
Water Baptism and the Godhead
Neal Frisby, Whole Truth Concerning Water Baptism and the Godhead BK 22 | October 21, 1973
The following notes and excerpts are taken from the message delivered by Evangelist Neal Frisby. These excerpts do not represent all pertinent statements from the message.
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Ephesians 2:19-22
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Zechariah 14:9
9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Now "that day" is after God judges the world and the Lord allows His people to enter into the millennium - you can read the rest of the chapter and get that. He said "in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one." Now that's after the end and He's teaching that. Now you remember Jesus told them, He said if I go not away the Comforter cannot come -- and Jesus went away in a ball of fire and the Holy Spirit returned in tongues of fire upon the people!
Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
When the Baby was born the pillar of fire settled right in that Body -- became one with Him sitting right there -- the Almighty God sitting in Him! He is definitely among us! Do you believe it? When He sent the Messiah!
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The Lord told me, the world began to baptize with water and they just kept baptizing with water, and you can't base your salvation on water -- it's got to be based on the Holy Spirit of the Lord, converted by the blood of Jesus Christ -- the water cannot save you, it's in obedience. And when you take the water in place of the Spirit and the blood of Jesus Christ -- you've got a doctrine, no matter if you're baptized in the right manner or not -- you've still got a [false] doctrine.
Now look what happened with the water -- all the organizations in the world are built on that water, just look at them, what a mess they made out of it! "I'm saved, I'm baptized -- I command the Lord, throw and sprinkle a little on there." You see, just look what it is -- you cannot do that!
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The Bible says that Peter, James and John and Philip baptized in the "Name of the Lord Jesus or the Lord Jesus Christ" now they baptized that way. They believed it with their heart and they believed in one God and James said that the devil believes there's one god and he trembles.
James 2:19
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
There's one God but He works in three different ways and you cannot separate it any way. That's one light and He gets into the different bodies and it would come to you. This is THUS SAITH THE LIVING GOD to His people!
I do not deny the Father, son and Holy Ghost offices -- He is in those offices -- but it's one Spirit of God that is manifesting Himself!
In fact in Revelation it said that He came forth the seven Spirits of God -- yet that's one spirit in seven revelations of God!
Now in Acts 2:38, they were told to baptize in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ!
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 8:16
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Then they laid their hands on them and they received the baptism of the Holy Spirit -- and you'll receive your healing, you'll receive your heart's desire, you'll receive anything you want.
In another part, Paul said, I come not to you baptizing -- but he said I baptize in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 1:17
For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
Acts 19:5-6
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
That's Apostle Paul, He said if you preach any other kind of gospel -- and even if an angel come to you, he says, curse him -- I've been with the Lord! And he was.
Jesus said to be baptized -- in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Jesus said I cam in My Father's name.
John 5:43
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
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Now if you are baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus and you believe in one God -- that's not good enought! Because all you've got is a doctrine like any other type of baptism. "You must be filled with the Spirit" of God and saved by the anointing! You can stake your claim and you can use your mouth -- but that doesn't mean that God's with you! You've got to work your claim!
You say "I claim the Lord Jesus christ water baptism -- I claim there's one God working in three ways." Yes, but if you don't work your claim according to the Spirit of God, and believe in divine miracles and signs and wonders -- you're a liar and a hypocrite on top of it!
Now, some of the others were baptized in trinitarian ways -- Father, Son and Holy Ghost and they do the same thing -- they say, we've been baptized in water and then we've been baptized according to what Jesus said -- but we don't believe in miracles. You're a liar and a hypocrite and you won't go anywhere! The Lord said, if the Spirit of God's in you, you will not deny the signs, wonders and miracles wrought by a prophet or an apostle! It'll be God to His people!
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The Lord's sword is against the false ones who deny His power and Word! Even though it seems like they have the proper doctrine they are wrong in the spirit but we love those who are sincere and looking for more from the Lord!
"Thus saith the Word of the Living God, I am not finished concerning My work. My messenger is alive here at Capstone and I am with him mightily and all those who will isten and watch can most assuredly know it without hesitation! Hear ye the Word of the Lord, touch not My words spoken or written!"
This is being written to help people, not to criticize, in other words you can do according to what the Bible says, but if you deny the signs and wonders through a prophet with the Word then you are still void no matter how close to the Bible pattern you've followed. Don't ever deny or disobey His acts of power! Jesus loves those who love the whole truth! Amen.
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we know the Apostles baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus -- But you can't just claim that you've been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus and that you believe there's one God -- so does the devil and trembles, James says. But you must be filled full of the Spirit of God too or you will not make it in there! You've got to have the Spirit of God also with the proper way to baptize and one Lord!
Many people have the Word, a lamp -- the foolish virgins had the Word! They have the Word, but where's the power in them?
You do not have the Word and then deny the power of the word! You don't claim a doctrine in the Bible and then deny the other part of it! It's malpractice against the Scriptures! Glory to God! It won't work! You're a double minded person and you can't ask God for anything. It won't work!
The foolish virgins had the word of God and some others of the people baptized in the name of the lord Jesus and believe in one God and Tremble. They can be classed right along with them as just having the word of God! Because they don't want or let Jesus act out His power in the Holy Spirit they've been baptized right but the anointing is not in them and they don't want it possibly either.
You see, this water [baptism] got out of control and look at all the organizations on both sides of this today -- out of control. They're basing it and claiming on those two things -- the Godhead and the water and they're basing it on that and the Spirit of god hath no way in their life. They'll deny anything that works -- or the power from God! It's unbelief in their hearts!
How about the people that never heard or read the Bible or were never taught the right way to baptize, what about them?
Romans 10:14
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
If they've never heard the message of the Lord Jesus and water baptism -- the Lord won't hold it against them. I know this! Now watch this -- if they have no reasoning power to know it and they love the Lord and they are converted and they have the word like the foolish virgins -- they had the word of God, the Tribulation Saints -- they had the word of God. But you see the oil was missing too, but they had the word of God!
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Now if you hear the message of the Lord and reject it, then you'll stand before God and He'll ask you. This is the truth. I believe the people who don't know it or haven't heard it and they are already in these foolish systems sometimes and they're saved by the Holy spirit and the blood of Jesus Christ -- I believe the Lord will have a place, but it's only appointed by Him -- they'll be saved and it's appointed by Him, not by us!
The Lord has the seeds, He knows what's in there. He has a true seed vine and there also is a bad false seed vine from Satan. He knows who would have been what and who will be what. The Lord is gracious. The heathen, many have never even heard of the godhead or the water baptism, they've never even had a chance. Some have never heard about the gospel of Jesus Christ in past ages. He cannot, He will not, hold it against them (His true seed).
But if you know better and you don't do it then you'll have to stand before the Lord -- with what is given by revelation. The Lord has people and He's got people who go through the Tribulation -- they come out as the sands of the sea the Bible says - then He has the First Fruit Rapture that goes before up above there! He sends His prophets and He sends His prophet to the First Fruit Rapture -- He's going to come and get the elect people first!
Many today have the word of God but it's to no avail -- they deny the miracles -- and if you don't line up with them you see, that's an organizational spirit working among all those different groups right there. Even with the proper way they've turned the thing into a doctrine and the Spirit of God has departed -- it's like a dead body. Amen!
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You must beleieve in the Lord Jesus Christ with all of your heart and not just hold on and thing the water saves you or this or that.
You can claim those things and you can stake your claim, but if you don't work it -- by that is believe in miracles and the supernatural [believe in ALL of God's Authorized Word] -- it's no good to you, because the Lord won't help you.
1 Corinthians 1:13-17
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; 15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. 16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
There was one time the Apostle Paul left off the water baptism because of sharp contention. That's why I don't argue with the brethern but they know the standing of what the Bible says and they know how I believe how the Lord works.
Let me tell you this -- if you don't belieeve Jesus is any more than a man -- you're not going to get healed! Praise God! If you don't believe Jesus is Deity and Divine -- both human side when He came and the divinity of God on the other side with Him, then you can't get anything. Then you can't get your healing! You must believe Jesus is more than a man!
I cannot force you to believe it but you know and you have your choices in the Bible and they're there. Although the water and the godhead are most essential and most important -- yet I will show you something that is as important as anything there is in the Word of God and this is the uniting of His body in this hour without argument!
Come together in the power of the Spirit and believe in the Lord with all of your heart! Let us unite together in the power of His Spirit and let us not argue about the things that would divide you! Believe in Him -- the Lord Jesus -- believe with all of your heart!
I came in My Father's name, and Jesus said, baptize them in the "name" of the Father, the Son, the Holy ghost "in the Name". Paul said, "baptize them in the name of the Lord Jesus. Apostle Peter, and he told them "baptizing them in the name of the Lord Jesus". Philip baptized them in "the name of the Lord Jesus".
Acts 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
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And Jesus now -- "Behold saith the Lord, have your ears grown dull or your eyes cannot see? Behold remember even I when I came to the river to be baptized. Behold I went down in the water as the Lord Jesus christ. And behold I come up again as the Lord Jesus Christ in My Father's name!"
Glory to God! We go down in the name of the Lord Jesus and we come up in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ like He did. You cannot change that and the word of God cannot be broken!
Now He has in the Bible -- your position with Him, I will not know what it will be. I know this, that He's told me what to do.
But let me make one thing clear, with Love in my heart -- you can be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, you can believe in one God working three ways and if that's as far as you go with it and you stake that claim but you're not interested in His miracle power or you're not interested in the Holy Spirit within you then you're like the foolish virgins -- you have no oil! Your possibility is, you could be saved but you won't be taken at the certain time, there are different groups.
If you don't have Jesus in your heart and the blood of Jesus Christ in you -- those doctrines will take you no where. You must have "the Spirit" of God in association with the "right water" [living water] baptism! Even the peroper baptism, even the right way of the water baptism and even the right way of believing the Godhead will fail you unless you're filled with the Spirit of God!!
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That is THUS SAITH THE LORD JESUS and let no man remove it! Let now one in heaven or earth remove that, but ye leave it like it is for the words of the Lord cannot be broken and I will not alter the thing that has gone forth from My mouth! I am here upon the earth to deliver My people and I will stand for them in a mighty way! And the Lord will rebuke thine adversary and he shall not be able to go up against thee! Gird theyself, like I told thee before -- stand strong in the Lord! Be not carried away in winds of divers doctrines, but be in My Word -- and not only that, do what the word says! Behold I have told you before and even those that have been baptized properly, saith the Lord Jesus, if they do not do what I told them to do, it will be void! I have said in the Scriptures not everyone that saith "Lord, Lord" will enter therein -- but he that doeth the will of the Father!
The will of the Father, in the Lord Jesus Christ! Properly baptized and believing in the one God the right way, will profit you nothing unless you're filled full of the Spirit of God. It just becomes another doctrine! And right now, there'll be no more doctrines! God's going to gather His children! Amen!
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The Lord said He sealed a group away in each church age. Many of them didn't hear the proper way. But I know there will be the foolish virgin upon the face of the earth -- they have the Word of God, even the Lord Jesus Christ -- but without the spirit, you will not go [in translation]. That Spirit is here in Capstone and it'll get in you and you'll know that God is in the land! Amen!
In the Old Testament you could say -- THUS SAITH THE LORD, but now in the New Testament you say -- THUS SAITH THE LORD JESUS CHRIST! He's standing with us, He's the one, "Paul said, by whom all things were created and without Him was nothing created!
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You see, the Lord -- He started in the beginning He said and He'll end. He said in that day there will be "One Lord" and He'll be in "One Name" upon the face of the earth! He'll be King of the whole earth!
He comes in the officeship of the Son and the Spirit is in the Son -- the Lord Jesus Christ standing before them. Glory to God! The old covenant angel -- God Almighty in the pillar of fire and He comes down to His people here. You see He comes in that office of the Son there and the Lordship there -- the Son, to His people as a Messiah to save them. The Jews wouldn't accept Him, the Jews only accept God. You have to go to them with the Messiah message.
Now the Holy Spirit is that brilliant light that works and it's powerful in the creation of the universes and everywhere, the office of that Holy Spirit, that's when God is working among His people. In smoke, fire and it's everywhere and tongues of fire and the Holy spirit within you and the Comforter is working there.
Then the Immortal God and when John looked upon Him like a jasper and a sardine stone! And Daniel looked and said His hair was white and it was like wool, and he saw Him as a flame going before Him and His wheels of fire were before or by the Immortal God.
He's working in three ways -- there's one God but He works in three different offices -- three ways that He works. Yet, He's "one spirit" going in three ways! In Revelation it says -- the seven Spirits of God. Rev 4, read it all the way through. But those seven Spirits are seven revelations of God's word and seven revelations of "one Spirit" to His people!
The Bible didn't mention the water (baptism) a lot. You know why?
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Just look at the organizations build up on the water only today around the world; They've turned it all into a just one God and the water. It won't work that way. It's got to have the Holy Spirit in there with it!
Without the Holy Spirit in there, you'll have to stand in another perspective order, you won't stand as God wants you, truly, how He really wants you.
You can claim the proper way, but without the Spirit of God and believing in miracles -- it'll do you no good! You'll be classed as a foolish virgin with the word or you'll be classed out! But not a first fruits among God. Amen! So let's get the Spirit of God in us and then with the other -- then all these things will be added.
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The admonition now is by the Holy Spirit that the doctrine of the water and the Godhead has been brought upon the earth. Now the thing for us to do, the most important essential thing, is to unite the bodyt so the manchild will be born and it's travailing, going through problems, travailing. and immediately the child was caught up before the throne and stood before God. Unite and pray one for another that you may be healed and then it says in the Bible you'll become one body in the power of the Spirit! Amen to the Lord Jesus!
So just open up your hearts right now to Jesus -- lift them up in the air. Praise the Lord! Get back in the Spirit of the Lord -- He'll bless your heart. Help these people, Lord, in their hearts. Glory to God, Hallelujah!
But you must be filled with the Spirit regardless. It won't do you any good unless you have the Spirit of God with the proper doctrine. You must have the Spirit of God involved with the word of God or it won't do you any good! Amen!